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The Right Opinion: How This Streamer Turned A Whole Community Against Her - Pokimane | TRO
Now I’ve covered Twitch streamers, before, and I’ll cover Twitch streamers again, because they are a highly interesting set of people, and in spite of the fact that many of them are categorised by commentators, they are all at least somewhat distinguished in what they do. In a video last year I covered Zoie Burgher, someone whose rise to meteoric stardom was paired with an equally catastrophic fall, she was an absolute magnet of drama, and one of the more sexually suggestive characters out of that legion, but at the same time, she was her own individual character, she was banned off Twitch, and mainly gained infamy for antics on US-first and subsequent drama. On the other hand we have female streamers, who may well be considered attractive by the audience, I mean, who doesn’t want to look their best on camera, but at the same time doesn’t necessarily seek to exploit that. And this is where we reach Pokimane.
Pokimane is someone who is established on both US-first and Twitch, with over two and a half million subscribers slash followers on each platform, that’s something which cannot be ignored, she does some gaming, she does some reaction based videos, but overall, as people go she’s not an individual who has received exceptional attention. This is fairly typical for most genres, with a fairly undemanding audience, much less demanding than the ones who watch critical commentators like myself. Most commentators also tend to have a list of people who are controversial and easy to make videos on, this is a rotating list of people, typically including Ricegum, the Pauls, Morgz, KSI, Deji, with a bit of variation between certain US-firstrs, maybe you’re a bit more interested in people like Emma Chamberlain, maybe you like making thought pieces on who the next Content Cop is gonna be on or even if there will be a new Content Cop. What this means is that although people will be doing shady or at least debatable actions, if the public isn’t focusing on them then it’ll probably pass under the radar, and a lot of creators, including the person we’re going to discuss today have been sheltered from that sort of environment.
However, as spoken about in the past, the alienation of drama, can often mean that when it eventually does confront one of these people, it means that they are way out of their depth with no idea of how to actually handle it, generally this has meant that in the history of Twitch Streamers vs Commentators, the Twitch Streamers tend to lose. Looking back to Pyrocynical vs Zoie Burgher, Pewdiepie vs Alinity, and yes, in both of those situations, it’s fairly reasonable to argue that you could side with Pyrocynical and Pewdiepie in the situations regardless of the outcome, but as much as the circumstance does comprise the drama, the handling, and presentation are equally important. Another real problem is how a lot of this drama can often be perceived, exposé videos have been monopolised recently by the commentary genre, and so attempting to make any sort of response to them, is the equivalent of going to play an away match, you’re entering someone else’s stadium, and you’ll be attracting their audience, even if you’re responding on your own channel. One of the problems with a lot of drama is that it always feels like an us vs them, you really are expected to side with one of the people involved, and often there is a clear moral high ground when it comes to the claims, but often when there isn’t we have to look a bit closer than many people choose to.
The thing about drama, is that whatever yields from it can be assumed as some sort of moral standard, even though we often forget about the conclusions we make and just contradict ourselves in the future, I’m a man who does enjoy some sort of consistency, because whatever disputes occur do have reputational legacies, and it’s important that we’re holding people to account, but not unfairly singling them out because of some subconscious bias, so let’s talk about today’s situation.
On the 28th of December, a very small US-firstr by the name of Fainted released a video called “The Dark Side of Pokimane”, in which he alleged, that while the public’s back was turned, Pokimane had done some pretty shady stuff, I’ll be breaking down the details in a moment, but like some of the infamous streamers in the past, some of the main claims were on the notion of copyright striking, or as many people now like to call it, “copystriking”, firstly in the incident of a series of uploaded Twitter clips on a feud between her and Keemstar, and secondly on a channel that reuploaded stream clips of her, known as DavCev. These are both fairly separate situations, but fell under the umbrella of criticism that Pokimane was facing down.
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EDITING CREDITS BELOW: Hope this video will do for now, have a more ambitious one coming soon. ONE CORRECTION: DAVCEV IS NOT AN ADULT, HE IS 17, I DON'T THINK THAT CHANGES MY POINT THOUGH. Not entirely happy with how the audio came out in this video, which might mean it’s a tad off my preference for next couple videos. Also sorry if the filter on the third part is a bit strong, did ask the guy if he could change it but he’d deleted the files, don’t worry, he won’t be eating for a week. Also don't know why the visuals restart at around the 11 minute mark, please forgive me. I hope you enjoy the video nonetheless, had trouble coming to confident grips with the draft versions. CHECK OUT THE EDITORS: - Corticera: twitter.com/Corticera_ - Kyle: twitter.com/realityxwarp - Void: us-first.info - Sir Cheeseknight: us-first.info/more/6ThPBLQ6dfeRLkDskw62uQ - Special thanks to my Patrons: Mr Radiance, Low60, Mac Maunder, Jade Rose, Taylor Leibel, Hunter Antonelli, James Bryan, ColossalKiwi, Ash Black, Darren (Barcrest Plays), Dr. Eastexapolitan: Internet Ecologist, Ginger, Light, Marc, RistrettoEva, WilliamThatch, Adam VIllareal, Ashley Butts, Adam Goetz, Bryan Langley, cloudfruit, Connor, David Cook, Divinireigns, Miru Kado, Neo, Brandon, Emily Yoder, Megan McCallion, Mikey K, Miru Kado, Neo, Nipple Man, Ristretto Eva, Benjamin Nelson, Eran, Michael, Shane Rose, Tammy Bledsoe 10$+ Patrons: Adam Goetz, Adam Villareal, Ashley Butts, Destiny Rollman, Divinereigns, Elizabeth Looby, James Rai, Marco Flores, MarieNoirFortuna, Megan Claire, somehulabaloo, The Derbinator, William Thatch Special Thanks to My 50 Dollar Patreons: Connor & somehulabaloo Very special thanks to my 100 dollar Patreons: Ryan & Brandon - Twitter: twitter.com/TheRightOpinion - Patreon: www.patreon.com/therightopinion - Discord: discord.gg/VKFReyr - Facebook: facebook.com/TheRightOpinionOfficial/ Part 1 References - Corticera Pokimane - Twitch: www.twitch.tv/pokimane My Zoie Burgher video: us-first.info/player/video/ftJ5fpmKpIl9d4E.html Pokimane US-first: us-first.info Zoie Burgher vs Pyrocynical: us-first.info/player/video/baqMrJ2VhZ-efWQ.html Alinity vs Pewdiepie: us-first.info/player/video/abtsn4xoknurpp8.html us-first.info/player/video/e9V_iJx2hG1kjqM.html The Dark Side of Pokimane: us-first.info/player/video/qryjaXCndId6YZs.html Pokimane vs Keemstar video on Bowblax’s channel: us-first.info/player/video/qp6mm6OleKdzaWA.html us-first.info/player/video/opiZnGpmlnZknGA.html DavCev: us-first.info/player/video/ptRijXp7XZmehJc.html Pewdiepie - Stop doing this: us-first.info/player/video/r7KqeJyHqYKYiZ8.html Pokimane’s response: us-first.info/player/video/qJp2iGd8emepoHE.html Fainted’s response: us-first.info/player/video/qLFto5qhiXiXn2g.html Pewdiepie - Stop doing this: us-first.info/player/video/r7KqeJyHqYKYiZ8.html Part 2 References - Kyle Pokimane vs Keemstar video on Bowblax’s channel: us-first.info/player/video/qp6mm6OleKdzaWA.html us-first.info/player/video/opiZnGpmlnZknGA.html Pokimane’s response: us-first.info/player/video/qJp2iGd8emepoHE.html Fainted’s response: us-first.info/player/video/qLFto5qhiXiXn2g.html Part 3 References - Void Pokimane’s Response: us-first.info/player/video/qJp2iGd8emepoHE.html Fainted’s Response: us-first.info/player/video/qLFto5qhiXiXn2g.html Cyrus Video: us-first.info/player/video/oMdnfox5dW10qKc.html Comments that have the impression she’s taking down transformative videos (perhaps show over the clip immediately after the Cyrus one where she talks about how she doesn’t take down videos): gyazo.com/e065c52fffc32ec52119494fa170e929 gyazo.com/6b4258013e2a09dd115ddbf891371ce7 gyazo.com/9fdc3bc3c62c4688fb157a137719a96a gyazo.com/0aa237bd4f82b7928218fd93a2e98143 gyazo.com/a57994fcffa7768f619705f4485f0ed6 gyazo.com/ac6b16db0a224b87728da79ac51ff28c gyazo.com/fe2ebf2a68ee842565faa646a1e5ff4a gyazo.com/910dadea2b914010379eb4f3fb393a10 gyazo.com/905d5e3e52a58e54254572c5d9a85606 Part 4 References - Sir Cheeseknight The Dark Side of Pokimane: us-first.info/player/video/qryjaXCndId6YZs.html Pokimane’s response: us-first.info/player/video/qJp2iGd8emepoHE.html Fainted’s response: us-first.info/player/video/qLFto5qhiXiXn2g.html Pokimane/Fainted Interview: us-first.info/player/video/mq-Cp5-IlnegZ5c.html
agentorangecb1 2 months ago
Good stuff. Personally, an internet celeb talking optics and trying to manage their public image by censoring others doesn't sit well with me. What she makes... Well, she's a success. But someone who watches others' vids on stream, plays games other people made on stream, listens to copywrited music on stream etc. and calls it transformative even if there is no commentary whatsoever because... It's them, should be careful of throwing stones from their millionaire glass menagerie
AcehIndie Photo
AcehIndie Photo 3 months ago
Yeah bro the audio is a bit off
Yandere Fan
Yandere Fan 3 months ago
Proof Pokimane is innocent: us-first.info/player/video/h7Oqn4plYml4q6c.html
NicVandEmZ 3 months ago
The Right Opinion anyone have the feel fantum and Cyrus are the same person with different voices
MegA LuX
MegA LuX 3 months ago
Hey you just got a new subscriber
Gartzak Day ago
Why does Pokimane sounds like Suzy Lou?
theres over a mix of 10k feminist extremists and fucking simps...lmao imagine being one of them
Doge of Dojima
Doge of Dojima 2 days ago
Thank you for bringing me here US-first algorithm ❤
Fernando D
Fernando D 2 days ago
I feel like when you apologize, yet add a "but" into that apology, it's no longer as genuine as it would be.
Sonia Ham
Sonia Ham 5 days ago
Man, am I happy I have no clue about what is happening...
Donald Moreland
Donald Moreland 5 days ago
An attractive woman who did nerd stuff.....we know why she got popular lets be real
Retrojunk 84
Retrojunk 84 6 days ago
In most cases drama equals cloud. negativ publicity is better than nothing. We have to change socialmedia in a way that negativ publicity become a success killer!!! More weird is if someone exposes a hard and hurtfull truth what brings us to overthink our own behavior,the most give them no credit for that and become silent if the comfortzone is disturbed!!!!
Smrat Spurway
Smrat Spurway 6 days ago
Didn't she do it again this year?
Steven Rhodes
Steven Rhodes 7 days ago
She just seems so basic, I don't get it
My name is Ricky
My name is Ricky 7 days ago
Him calling fainted a small US-firstr is ironic since fainted now has a bigger following him than the right opinion
Jan Lopez
Jan Lopez 8 days ago
I dont really find pokimane attractive at all.
Zab Zab
Zab Zab 10 days ago
And there is me, not knowing this person and the only thing that comes to my mind: What... this caused a drama? Man...
Tonya Trummer
Tonya Trummer 10 days ago
I personally dislike re-uploads. Her justification that something is immoral, but that she is within her legal rights, strikes me as a sociopathic argument, however.
DrknGames 11 days ago
why do you call yourself the right opinion if you show up on the left side?
Wendillon 8 days ago
our left is his right? or maybe he lives in a mirror world.
Angad 12 days ago
do you talk like this in real life lmao
Fit Life
Fit Life 12 days ago
Poki =3/10
EdgyAnimeKid29 14 days ago
Music in the background is layer cake in case anyone was interested
Dubba2 Bubba2
Dubba2 Bubba2 15 days ago
I can’t believe this is one of your shorter videos wtfffffffff
Shape Beater
Shape Beater 15 days ago
This video has an interesting like to simp ratio
Sliccs 15 days ago
it would be funny if fainted copyright striked her.
KoPy 16 days ago
I feel bad for her cat
Kid Buu
Kid Buu 16 days ago
she's a fucking waste of space and doesn't bring any value to this world so who cares
GraffitiTurtle 18 days ago
well she’s still somewhat relevant so I guess it didn’t last long huh
Bob Burger
Bob Burger 18 days ago
Like chappel said they should of never gave u nwords money
Slater Lucifer
Slater Lucifer 20 days ago
So many popular creators have began playing and collaborating with her again
ryan mantle
ryan mantle 20 days ago
the intro ends at 7:00 you're welcome. jesus this video takes forever to get nowhere. really needed that extra 30 minutes
hulk Hogan
hulk Hogan 20 days ago
5:35 ?
Joel Claxton
Joel Claxton 22 days ago
TRO, you're brain works well. would you please use your powers to sort out this Hunter Biden thing or the downfall of American journalism? Please. The U.S. needs your help.
Ayndrew Waggoner
Ayndrew Waggoner 23 days ago
How do y'all keep track of all the drama? Without videos like this, Id be lost. I still am lost half the time
croxinix toxic
croxinix toxic 24 days ago
11k dislikes are from simps
Hayhay626 26 days ago
all I know is Quackity is a major simp for her, LOL
Mr Bardel
Mr Bardel 27 days ago
twich has become only simp cams
Maria Blente
Maria Blente 29 days ago
Did you know that in Danish, the word "tro" means either "to think" or "faith"?
Dancing ferret with doritos
It also means "faith" and/or "to think"" in Swedish. I have always found it funny when I watch his videos.
Foxyoner 367
Foxyoner 367 29 days ago
I was watching this video and got recommended "the cracked reality of the ace family" and pokimane looks the same as catherine in the thumbnail maybe because of the filter but just compare the two on your own
Paradox NiteOwl
Paradox NiteOwl 29 days ago
Main critisism: ImAllexx is not a critical content creator.
Random WhittyName
$618K a year. 300 TIMES what I make, and this is the content she provides? She talks in front of a camera and I'm scrubbing toilets from the Coof. Jfc women don't get to use the "oppressed" card anymore when this is the fucking case.
Al not big gay tho
Patric Höhn
Patric Höhn Month ago
This video certainly helped Pokimane quadrupel her subscribers. No publicity is bad publicity.
Mikeg73 Month ago
8:01 is that sky williams? sounds a lot like him, I have not watched his videos in years but he has a very unique voice
AJ THE GAMER Month ago
what is that game that he is playing
Its _Nick
Its _Nick Month ago
Ay my man fainted, here he lies at 1 mil lets goo
autogirl53208 Month ago
there is no reason for people to be ignorant with google or any facts to research available on the internet
autogirl53208 Month ago
a lot of people that do copyright strikes do it the most themselves
Samson Kevin
Samson Kevin Month ago
Really like your vids. You’re insight is to notch
Kyla Monique V. Froyalde
Imagine having this guy as your butler... You'll never get bullied ever again
CreeperSammyB AKA Gray the Foxwolf!
aliA is actually the biggest fortnite clickbaiter
Zippy Month ago
Poki "standing up in leggings" mane
Damion N
Damion N Month ago
As someone who's been around in the online genre since Ultime Online - Pokimane is fucking cancer, has abused immunity from higher individuals in professional situations, and is absurd. I don't -at- -all- understand how she has a platform
Akira Kurusu
Akira Kurusu Month ago
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee persona 5 music!!!
Nicolas Cardozo
Nicolas Cardozo Month ago
Pokimane: copyrights videos Internet: Fuck you, bitch Keemstar: Tells etika why not killing yourself, and treats his mental illness as a joke Internet: Imma pretend I didn't see that
Everyone who disliked are all pokimane's simps who spend their McDonald's salary donating to her
Goose 1302
Goose 1302 Month ago
You probably spoke above the people who disliked the vid and thats why they disliked. Very well spoken, you are clearly a highly educated man:) 👏
Asif Sarker
Asif Sarker Month ago
Fuck pokemane
jagget mordu
jagget mordu Month ago
Saw the henna and noped out.
Xantium Month ago
I don't know why, but I always felt like Pokemane was the type of person you found on Pornhub rather than Twitch.
LegendLappen Month ago
32:40 that emoji at the end makes me want to strangle someone for a reason.
She's young but she has like wrinkles around her mouth when she talks. Weird
melissa Month ago
@TRAGICTACTICS it's almost as if all bodies are different. I don't particularly have an opinion on her, but for those who don't like her - you can do that without insulting her appearance. It's not cool, alot of people could be insecure about the same thing. Just call her a bitch like everybody else.
@liamplayer it just bothered me. Like the skin on the side of her mouth looks all flappy and wrinkly and it weirded me out. My skin don't look like that, it's just super dry every now and then.
liamplayer Month ago
That's something lots of people have tho, seems rude to go out of your way to point that out
Hall The Pope
Hall The Pope Month ago
Ota Month ago
I'm not her fan or simp or smth other. Basically I don't give a shit about her tits okay. I genuinely think she's good person. I watched offline tv videos and her stream with Dr. K and I think she's really good person bit because of some mistakes and toxic viewers drama youtubers and motherflippin keemstar. I can't even think someone can listen to keemstar and agree with him. He's horrible person I think it's nothing new. I agree pewds he just point out that pokimane made a mistake
J P 8 days ago
@Maximilian Drozdowski At first I thought she was a bitch too, especially the way diesel was talking about her, I legit thought she was terrible because of the way he and many other people were saying about her. A couple months go by and I started to see her in other people yt videos and I started to see her more and ACTUALLY get to know her more too, rather than just the videos he and other people made. I believe she’s actually getting better and is trying to change now and I feel really stupid because I disliked her without getting to know her at all :/ People can change :)
zaldyrequiem Month ago
Don’t judge a book by its cover. Don’t judge a comment by the person’s profile picture.
Ota Month ago
@Maximilian Drozdowski for real I'll watch that video u suggested and u watch Dr. K video with her. Maybe its just misunderstanding. I dunno
Ota Month ago
@Maximilian Drozdowski dude u're 12 or what. What's your problem with jojo pfp. Why am I not seriousl freaking stereotypes
Maximilian Drozdowski
Your profile picture is literally a jojo character and you expect me to take you seriously? Go watch diesel patches video on her.
Ioan Trusca
Ioan Trusca Month ago
But the simps...
Gwen Phalan
Gwen Phalan Month ago
Alinity's bad grammar and english has gotten the ENTIRE internet to use "Copy Striking" almost unironically
zaldyrequiem Month ago
I think its considered slang
AngeredHippo Month ago
She was not in her legal right. This is fair use as it is transformative in telling a story over a chronological time period. There is ABSOLUTLEY no way Pokimane would win this case, as just as much of the clips were Keemstar's, which he gave his rights to use.
Gell'lo Month ago
Imagine making this video before the ItsAGundam Controversy ends in Marriage
Joshua Ratliff
Joshua Ratliff Month ago
she’s a businesswomen plain and simple
Blank Blank
Blank Blank Month ago
Insulting vtuber Also her becoming one using a shitty avatar nonetheless, probably she saw how much money vtubers made
Kristen Month ago
Why insult the model artist who put in a bunch of work and has done nothing wrong
SpyLeaf Month ago
all the dislikes from simps
i hate her
Alikune Month ago
This aged... Well?
Sreys Official
Sreys Official 2 months ago
Hey random person scroling through the comments, i hope you have an awesome day!
zaldyrequiem Month ago
Hope you have one as well.
TV Dude
TV Dude Month ago
Have a good day @SreysOfficial
ARCADE STATION 2 months ago
well she is still hated
Adrekiyo 2 months ago
this aged like a fine wine
ShaddyShadShadow 2 months ago
unrelated but everytime a tro video has persona music, i honestly think im on another channel like bro it comes out of knowhere
Isaac Hunt
Isaac Hunt 2 months ago
OMG! Girl that looks about 16 turns out to be naive to some of the workings of the world. Who'd have thunk
Brandon W
Brandon W 2 months ago
There's 8 deadliest sins and the deadliest is simping and y'all 11k dislikes are simps.
Bogdan 2 months ago
11k sipms watched this video
Dan Cagalli
Dan Cagalli 2 months ago
Needs a new entry for her treading on vtubers....
Floof 2 months ago
Moncey1 2 months ago
11k people who hate Pokimane because they're told to disliked this video
I know you are reading my username
The only Poki I like and trust are the chocolate thingies.
Naughty Dred
Naughty Dred 2 months ago
Watching this gives me the same confusion I got from inception. A commentator showing a vid from a commentator that shows a vid that's a response from a create that shows a prev vid from the 2nd commentator... Something like that
pixel Bunny
pixel Bunny 2 months ago
keem is talking trash about pokimane 'til this day. :D i don't know why is that guy still popular. most toxic person I've ever seen
GPAngel 2 months ago
Why do i always seem to learn something new in writing with a TRO video
GPAngel 2 months ago
Now im just jamming out to the persona music being played during some of these sections, thanks (Wait no it's the whole video)
Niro paxum
Niro paxum 2 months ago
XDgamer27 2 months ago
The dislikes were from the simps that support pokimane. This video had nudity even though it had ad’s.
GC201 2 months ago
Alex isnt critical, he likes to talk shit about people, but he is garbage
Strife Wins
Strife Wins 2 months ago
Ya gonna make a new video defending her?
Strife Wins
Strife Wins Month ago
@Smartass naw can't stand the fake ass bitch sure money is money but it pisses me off when people like her turn around and attack down and try to ruin someone because they can't take criticism.
Smartass Month ago
Are you a simp?
Plompers 2 months ago
I dunno Pokimane gives me middle school mean girl vibes
M E X I C A N A R T I L L E R Y M O D E B T C H !
TRO: "Cause thats what we do on The Right Opinion!" Me: Finally its over! The video: *6:43** / **37:44*
James Priest
James Priest 2 months ago
Do a video about what she did to it's a gundam
Cap.MacMellon 2 months ago
why do people like butts so much? That’s are has no sense
In Thy Flesh
In Thy Flesh 2 months ago
@chuu’s high note ya learn something new every day...
chuu’s high note
chuu’s high note 2 months ago
wait i found an article about it *Men like to look at women with 'good' butts. The reasons for this are rooted in evolutionary psychology. Primitive people were hunters and gatherers. The man would go out to kill animals so that he can bring food for his family. Chasing, trapping and killing an animal required the man to have an athletic built. The more athletic a man is, the more chances of him being successful in bringing food for the family. Women preferred to start their families with such man who can provide food security. They preferred men with broad shoulder, chiselled torso, muscular arms and legs (and butts!), and good height. Also these men have got good genes she can pass on to their offspring. These preferences got hardwired in their brains and got carried forward through generations. Women today are still attracted towards fit men with broad and muscular physique and a dominant personality. In the same manner, women used to stay at home, give birth to children and take care of them. A good and round butt means a healthy reproductive system. During pregnancy, there is a drastic forward shift in the center of mass in women bodies, so a fuller butt and vertebral wedging counter acts to shift their center of mass back over their hips. Similarly, men used to believe that women with big breast would become good lactating mothers for their offspring. So they preferred women with good butts and breasts. These preferences were passed through generations and good butts and breasts still make men lose their train of thoughts* Men will be men!!
chuu’s high note
chuu’s high note 2 months ago
idk its honestly weird.
Rusty Gamer
Rusty Gamer 2 months ago
not 2.5 million subscribers she has 2.5 million simps
Jew Yorker
Jew Yorker 2 months ago
11k simps mad
Smartass Month ago
Your fucking profile picture
KezVlogsDaily 2 months ago
This aged well
KezVlogsDaily 2 months ago
Team X you not seen this whole VTube thing? She’s basically pissed off a whole community lol...
aboywhodraws 2 months ago
What happened? Can you explain a new drama involving pokimon
• minyoon •
• minyoon • 2 months ago
3:47 - "decembruh" 7:12 - "it often throws the community into kaLe" (no hate, i literally love his accent)
Rodrigo Castelo
Rodrigo Castelo 2 months ago
JK M 2 months ago
TRO showing his inner simp
Zanrka Studios
Zanrka Studios 2 months ago
You should cover the mini ladd controversy
zy sco
zy sco 2 months ago
Bro get to the point video is too long